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Dissatisfaction in a country,
in this transformation,
is not only possible,
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but also natural.
Let us not resent that pensioner,
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those people with children or anyone
who really feels the burden of transformation
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or who feels disappointed,
and refuses to look at the simple
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question of making a living in relations
to deep foreign policy issues
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or other great historical factors.
We are doing everything we can
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to help them solve their problems
along with the transformation
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but the responsibility lies with
those politicians who know the facts,
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knowing what they could
not have done differently
or which steps were necessary.
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Beyond the democratic right of a
demonstration they want to use
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their own self-interested political
- I don't even want to say party
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politics - purposes.
They saw these twenty points in
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the formulation of the Torgyan
wing of the Smallholders’ Party.
Well, what can you say to that?
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I'd really appreciate it if you'd
publish this ’expert’ government list.
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It would be so nice to see
where these experts are gone,
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and what a wonderful mimikri;
it has evolved into political
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zoology over the past decades.
Everyone is gonna be an expert now.
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I don't know what the reason
for choosing an expert is.
Whether the expert who filled a
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high office shelf in the previous
regime could either be trained as
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an expert in the party centre or
became an expert because of the
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fact that enough guinea pigs were
at the disposal of the Hungarian
people and were able to experiment,
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or those who are now sitting
as the heck of a great expert
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in some corner of Parliament.
How could they not have presented
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something of this for four decades?
These are the excellent experts of
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our esteemed former opponents.
How come they didn't know about this beforehand?
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Well, every month an alternative
political or economic program
is proposed now.
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And these never materialise.
Or take a case like this.
Foreign policy. Atlantic alliance.
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Well, let's talk about these things.
Gyula Horn, president of the Hungarian
Socialist Party, is coming forward to
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order the government to immediately
request our joining NATO.
Well, it's embarrassing
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that we didn't want to.
That is why I committed the
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rudeness of speaking immediately,
which, by the way,
I have parliamentary rights for.
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Before the schedule,
to make this clear.
We didn't wait for him.
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Well, it turns out there were doubts
in his own party, too. So, excuse me,
what is this this exactly we are playing with?
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Well, it is clear that we have stated
at the national meetings
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of the MDF that we are members
of the Atlantic idea.
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We did negotiations.
We went to Brussels. What happened?
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There were immediate obligations.
It doesn't bother anyone that NATO
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wouldn't accept it in that form.
That is what Brzezinski
was talking about.
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That is what everyone is talking about,
so how is a country to do it
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– to apply for membership
and then be rejected.
That's what makes you the expert?
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Or in economic matters?
Well, there's something that's
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happened with all this expertise.
The big gray matter we've been hearing
for two and a half years now.
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The land compensation question.
Who doesn't know how hard it was,
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with sleepless nights,
many weeks of trial, everything.
We all knew that this was a very
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difficult question, and it is now.
But was there any need
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on people’s behalf actually,
in Hungary to get something back?
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Well, Fidesz said there wasn’t.
As for SZDSZ (Alliance of Free Democrats)?
That everybody should get 20,000 forints?
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Everyone knew that was crazy.
Of course, the Smallholders' Party
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has another idea.
What does that mean?
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We are not united in this society,
we are simply standing here as a
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sociological formula in a country that
has an established social structure,
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including interests.
The new class of Milovan Djilas is there
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in every former communist country,
perhaps disintegrated,
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perhaps weakened, but there it is,
this sociological reality,
- to be fashionable -
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which is the legacy of this,
we know, analyze,
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monitor precisely and act accordingly
and pursue policies accordingly.
