00:00:52    Excuse me, sir, may I ask why you're here? - To pay our final respects
00:00:57    to the Prime Minister. - What did He mean to you?
00:01:00    - Actually, everything that hasn't been for 40 years. New opportunities, new hopes,
00:01:05    and what these three and a half years have brought.
00:01:10    Not one agressive act happened in this whole transition period. And that's what we owe him in the first place.
00:01:17    - Are you an MDF member? - No. I'm not a member of any party. - He governed our country.
00:01:25    And I feel like we owe you some respect.
00:01:31    - Yeah. - Are you members of the MDF? - No, I don't,
00:01:35    I don't know anything about politics but I think I'm paying my respects because I get it.
00:01:43    - What do you do? - I'm unemployed at the moment.
00:01:48    - Then they must be in a very difficult situation. - Yeah, but it's only gonna get
00:01:53    worse than that, I think. - The election's coming up soon, isn't it?
00:01:59    The fact that so many people came here to honor the president of the MDF. Do you think it means
00:02:08    anything to the election? - Well, I'm not sure they came to
00:02:14    honor the president of the MDF but to honor a prime
00:02:20    minister who deserved it. - Good evening. Where are you from?
00:02:26    - We're from Drégelypalánk. - When did you leave? - Seven o'clock. 7:00 p.m.
00:02:32    - And why did you come from so far away? - Because we loved the Prime Minister very much
00:02:37    and we were very pleased with him. - Did you know him personally?
00:02:42    - Not personally, but because he was a great man and historian
00:02:49    and he was very sympathetic to the farmers' eyes
00:02:54    just like everybody else. So we respected him.
00:03:00    - How many of you have come from Drégélypalánk? - The ten of us.
00:03:03    - There are a lot of feelings for each other here and I think we don't
00:03:08    have a lot of people like the prime minister was
00:03:14    people wouldn’t think the same way. I believe that popularity is not the number one virtue in a politician
00:03:21    but that what he wants is for the good of the country, that community.
00:03:27    I got to know József Antall more closely during the roundtable negotiations. We sat next to each
00:03:33    other for three months, actually. We worked together in
00:03:38    the Constitutional Committee. The Sub-Committee 1/1 was the name of this, and so we
00:03:45    dealt with constitutionalization, so everyone was actually a lawyer, except for József Antall.
00:03:50    Nevertheless, the knowledge that he had humiliated many lawyers, because
00:03:56    he was terribly well-prepared in law, and that was not the point
00:04:04    which impressed me very deeply but the deep respect for the law
00:04:11    that almost radiated from him and what can't be learned at
00:04:17    university, is probably what you get at birth when you get it.
00:04:27    Ten days before he died, he was very confident that he would recover.
00:04:32    When I visited him at the hospital, he said that he wanted
00:04:38    three of his fellow politicians to visit him regularly.
00:04:42    The Minister of the Interior who's replacing him in the government. Managing President of the MDF, who is
00:04:49    the second person in the party, and I, who lead the parliamentary group.
00:04:54    And then I asked him if it was because it was right according to public law.
00:05:02    He smiled and nodded,
00:05:09    saying, yes. We, who have been lucky enough
00:05:17    to work close to him for years, who have been able to get
00:05:22    to know him very closely - for us the image of József Antall is
00:05:28    quite different from what has emerged in a broad public opinion.
00:05:34    Somehow, on television, his true personality could never come through.
00:05:40    He was an extremely direct man, he was not at all reserved, he was not proud,
00:05:47    he was rather modest, and he was a terrible human and had sunch a sense of humor,
00:05:52    a glistening sense of humor, which, of course, could only be detected
00:05:57    in direct conversations, and this was never seen in official manifestations.
00:06:02    Thank God there was one recording left when he celebrated
00:06:09    his 60th birthday in the faction, among the coalition. Well, it was very difficult to celebrate
00:06:15    because when I told József Antall that we wanted to celebrate he didn't want to hear about it,
00:06:21    he said that he still remembers Rákosi's 60th birthday well, and that he shouldn't get
00:06:26    involved in one of those things. We couldn't calm him down,
00:06:30    so we had to conspire with his closest coworkers. His schedule was arranged in such a
00:06:36    way that he had nothing official to do at the time when the Coalition Group came together, and then we
00:06:42    set him up with a concrete position, said that all the coalition representatives were here together
00:06:47    and that he was come from Parliament to the White House and then he would come over.
00:06:52    Well, József Antall wouldn't have been József Antall anyway if he hadn't taken this opportunity
00:06:59    to give a large political speech. The videotape kept this event unforgettable for all of usand
00:07:07    I would like to share it with those who are willing to pay their respects with
00:07:15    us to Prime Minister József Antall. - Dear friends, this is no,
00:07:22    age and everything, I feel that those who are here
00:07:29    may be any differences between us, but all things considered,
00:07:36    I think that those who are here and those who have come
00:07:45    are all friends to me. Without modesty, I must say so much,
00:07:52    and in this circle, that nothing I have had to do in recent decades
00:08:00    because of my special fortune, which would have led my life journey a
00:08:07    hair's length in any way that I should have had a bit of a responsibility.
00:08:16    I would like to emphasise that this is special luck.
00:08:24    It was a combination of special circumstances that, despite all
00:08:29    my difficulties and hardships, I had been able to walk the straight
00:08:36    path since my consciousness and lead a straight path here in politics,
00:08:43    and I can also say that when the period of transformation came,
00:08:50    and during the round table negotiations, my person came to
00:08:55    the fore in some sense, and the road led here,
00:09:01    perhaps many people would have preferred it on their way
00:09:07    out more than I did. They used to think I was some kind
00:09:14    of sour Jozsi because you dictate, I smile. This is not true
00:09:22    even if Sour József happened to have my great-grandfather's boyar,
00:09:28    and the Sour Family still owes me 300 gold forints today.
00:09:37    I gave this document to the Museum of Veszprém. It's gone, unfortunately.
00:09:44    As a result, I would like to stress that I am not really József Sour,
00:09:53    and I do not think that I have anything to do with it,
00:10:00    but the sense of responsibility and of these difficulties that have been waiting for us,
00:10:08    this has weighed on my soul as a great weight,
00:10:13    including the period of elections. Posterity will have to review this
00:10:21    period as a political struggle.
00:10:27    Even in our memory, who sit here as professional politicians,
00:10:34    the circumstances under which we were politicalizing often
00:10:39    fade into their memory. Today it is easy to say that
00:10:45    this or that should have been done differently. I've said it many times, I've said it again. Please,
00:10:51    the Soviet army is only 1991. In June, he retired.
00:10:58    And that even in the spring of
00:11:04    1991 we were clearly stressed and even threatened not to leave.
00:11:15    Foreign Minister Kvicinsky said that harshly. Jazov,
00:11:21    sitting in my room in Besmercny, was more delicately formulated.
00:11:27    It's been going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. So it wasn't that simple,
00:11:33    just like breaking up KGST. We were alone in this, too.
00:11:39    And we were the only ones who wanted it clearly.
00:11:43    And when the Visegrád meeting was here. Even then, Havel and the Czechoslovak delegation
00:11:50    did not want to say the dissolution of KGST without a successor organisation.
00:11:56    I went up before the signing of the Visegrad Treaty and convinced Valentina separately and with her
00:12:03    the following morning the Czechs. I can also say that when we
00:12:09    were in Moscow in June '90, at breakfast we tried to convince
00:12:16    the Poles that they wanted to leave the Warsaw Treaty with us. Havel
00:12:24    said he'd support us for a while, but the Secretary of State has already come to say that it's not valid.
00:12:33    But Maiziere said there's no way they're risking the
00:12:40    German unit by saying it. And indeed, no matter how incredible,
00:12:47    when the Foreign Ministers came in at 9:00 a.m., they met after breakfast, and when
00:12:55    the Secretary of State came back, it was not the minister who
00:13:01    was in Paris, who came in from the Foreign Minister's meeting,
00:13:07    and he said that neither Shevardnadze nor the others had contributed
00:13:13    to the presentation of a draft for the revision and dissolution
00:13:18    of the Warsaw Treaty in Hungary, I had the two drafts, the Soviet draft
00:13:26    approved by good foreign ministers, and the unaccepted Hungarian draft.
00:13:32    And it was indeed so that this particular meeting was intended to be formal,
00:13:39    and it was exceptionally a special source of fate and history that
00:13:45    I presided over the last political meeting of the Warsaw Treaty,
00:13:51    and as President, I began to read the unaccepted Hungarian text.
00:13:58    And that's when everyone got stiff. I thought I'd admit I
00:14:06    was wrong at the worst, but I'm going to put this forward,
00:14:12    the atmosphere got pretty stiff, and then Gorbachev said that K.
00:14:19    Haraso, I do not know whether you misunderstood, understood,
00:14:25    or not risked or risked a scandal, but in any case Gorbachev said yes,
00:14:34    and from then on everyone was enthusiastic,
00:14:39    including the Poles and Havel. It's different... On that day we
00:14:45    had a meeting with the Russians, the next day we went with Lajos Für,
00:14:51    only for military trial in the Kremlin probably a long, many centuries of experience,
00:14:57    carried us in a narrow corridor, and our own security people
00:15:02    were already separated. We went down a long, narrow corridor, we said to each other,
00:15:08    "What do you think, we're gonna end up in Siberia?" I'm only telling you this because of the atmosphere.
00:15:16    Anyway, now, we agreed on the way we were banging, and then they
00:15:22    took us to a whole little door. There must have been a lot
00:15:28    of Tartar Khans and stuff going through that Kremlin's back door. We thought it was some small room,
00:15:34    it's part of the soul. I'm telling you this because I might need these experiences.
00:15:41    They took us through a small door, a small door like this,
00:15:46    they opened the door, we didn't know where we were going through the little door,
00:15:52    and then we went to a large room full of huge chandeliers, that was
00:15:58    part of the psychological operation, and then we agreed that the
00:16:02    soldiers weren't very keen on us. Russia's power inspiration in
00:16:08    Central Europe did not start with the Soviet Union, but Königsberg's aim was
00:16:18    not with communism. From the century to World War I,
00:16:25    Königsberg can be shown at any time, in the same direction as the
00:16:32    Dardanellas, and simply by the fact that this era of power has passed,
00:16:40    if these peoples forget that we should always pay attention to it
00:16:47    and warn the world about it. We must strive to ensure that
00:16:53    NATO continues to operate. Work to maintain balance in Europe
00:16:59    so that no forces can prevail either in Germany or elsewhere that turn
00:17:07    each other against each other. Let's not create a situation where
00:17:14    the Americans take the isolicist principles and want to withdraw from Europe by turning inwards,
00:17:21    because if America retires, Europe will be left alone and the old conflicts will be restored,
00:17:28    there must be no great gift that an empire can always be created,
00:17:34    and this danger will not go away. The Hungarian Democratic Forum
00:17:39    expresses the idealism that we intended it to be.
00:17:44    The Hungarian Democratic Forum may have been intended for others
00:17:49    originally, but I think that we, who are still here for
00:17:54    the Hungarian Democratic Forum, were meant for such a centre
00:17:59    party and not for a complementary collaborating movement. As a result
00:18:05    of the round table negotiations, which have often been questioned
00:18:10    and many have not understood, we insisted that we carry through at least the acceptable
00:18:19    part of Hungary's state form and fundamental fundamental laws.
00:18:26    This includes the form of the Republic that works today.
00:18:32    Imagine if another form of state in the Republic,
00:18:36    a system of the Republic formed on other lines of force,
00:18:42    had it not been established, either in the direction of
00:18:47    the Republic of the Presidential Republic or in the direction of a semi-presidential republic,
00:18:55    had it not been taken out in 1848. Annex III to Regulation (EU) No
00:19:00    1822011 is amended as follows: Act-based ministerial system
00:19:03    and Article 1946. Annex I to Regulation (EU) No 1822011 is amended as follows: a legal form
00:19:08    based on the Republic, which corresponds precisely to the European parliamentary republics and the
00:19:16    European constitutional monarchies. Finally, about the pacts to
00:19:20    be heard by our friends who were sitting in our ranks,
00:19:27    we did not make a pact, and I would like to say this,
00:19:34    neither in 1989 did we make a negative pact at the
00:19:41    National Round Table negotiations, just as we did not conclude a negative
00:19:48    pact with SZDSZ at the end of April. What we have done both times is that
00:19:57    we have laid the legal foundations for the Hungarian transformation,
00:20:02    the legal foundations that we have been able to achieve in the given
00:20:09    situations, in the given moments. These questions will once again be
00:20:15    discussed in order to keep as few lies in people's minds as possible.
00:20:23    I think it would be a mistake to
00:20:28    believe that the carriers of the previous system have been permanently
00:20:34    renounced in internal politics, the leading layer of the previous
00:20:40    system has permanently renounced their return to power here.
00:20:47    They're trying to do this by all means. They're trying with economic
00:20:54    power in a democratic way. And what my opposition,
00:21:00    my former comrades do not perceive, they also welcome the
00:21:06    destruction of the SDS. Fidesz has been tricked into
00:21:13    a two-year-old electoral struggle and a determined attitude,
00:21:18    and they are waiting for elections in '94 to become a
00:21:26    credible force and expert alone, suitable for a social democratic
00:21:33    party, a different kind of party that satisfies national passwords
00:21:40    and aspirations, all sorts of political powers that will be
00:21:47    sufficient to obtain a majority. I think that without anyone
00:21:53    chasing enemy images here, but it would be a big mistake if we
00:22:00    didn't realize that the ruling elite, ruling class that exercised power,
00:22:06    the younger representatives of those who are in economic, political and other positions today,
00:22:14    would have permanently renounced a left or left centre here, if you like,
00:22:21    not to return as political forces. To this end, the social democratic
00:22:27    international will be used. They want to be accepted as social
00:22:34    democrats, they trust that there will be such a line in Western Europe,
00:22:40    on the other hand, national passwords if necessary. This concerns internal politics, so
00:22:47    that we do not believe for a moment, and do not believe that we are now
00:22:53    on the road for sure, we do not have to chase an enemy image here,
00:22:58    we do not have to be afraid, we simply have to be reasonable,
00:23:03    because this has not yet taken place, nor do I say that they want dictatorship, but power.
00:23:11    I told you all this so that we wouldn't just think about tomorrow,
00:23:16    what will happen here tomorrow in a year or two during our term of office.
00:23:22    We must work in such a way as to prepare for this multi-directional
00:23:29    historical chance situation, and based on the historical experience so far, either in internal
00:23:36    politics or in foreign policy, for the Hungarian nation,
00:23:41    for Hungary and for the Central and Eastern European region.
00:23:47    I believe that this Parliament, this Parliament, should, in most of these matters,
00:23:55    be on the same footing, not just us, the three coalition partners,
00:24:02    but also the part of the opposition that should or should be thinking
00:24:10    with us on these issues. But here, the three coalition
00:24:17    partners must always function in balance and agreement
00:24:23    on fundamental national issues, and when we see the various
00:24:30    instruments in internal politics, let us not forget the great lessons,
00:24:38    the great lessons that centre forces, the middle parties,
00:24:44    are always broken from the left by using right-wing forces,
00:24:51    or right-wing propaganda, behind right-wing slogans,
00:24:55    if economic power is in the hands of the former far-left,
00:25:03    it is financed from there. If otherwise, then vice versa,
00:25:09    but that the right wind and the left wind have the same
00:25:15    goals and the same aspirations, we must be aware of that,
00:25:21    and we, the middle-party democrats, belong to any party from
00:25:26    the three coalition factions, must work together to achieve this.
00:25:32    As long as I can, I'm sure that's what I'm gonna work for. Thank you for the memorial,
00:25:38    thank you for listening to me, and I apologize for the fact that,
00:25:44    contrary to my promise, I have been thinking about these thoughts longer than I intended,
00:25:50    but this is a mistake I have made many times. Thank you.
00:27:26    When he turned to the wall, the spaciousness of creation opened up to him. The former scene of
00:27:34    his struggles began to turn gray, and then vanished. His vagyai,
00:27:39    which he had done with hard will, were now found irresistibly,
00:27:44    with immeasurable lightness. What had happened to him so far,
00:27:49    as if it had been a dream, only sadness was familiar, as in his previous life,
00:27:54    when he knew he had to wake up. He wanted to change the impression
00:28:02    of the unchangeable, the operetta-like industrial version of feudalism.
00:28:08    He was a born Democrat, and as much as he despised people who had been depraved,
00:28:14    he never allowed hatred to his heart, but he did not allow the flame of
00:28:20    noble anger to be extinguished because he believed that by perseverance
00:28:25    all evils could be redeemed. And although he is justified
00:28:29    by complete existence, partial daily events sometimes surprised him with
00:28:34    more hideous evils than expected. He was shocked to note that his
00:28:39    gallant intentions were received by envious rejection and a maid's grin.
00:28:44    You know, it's time for you to come to that country you've forgotten in your dream, but first,
00:28:50    you've got to eat each other up with low-life interests. That's what he wanted to avoid.
00:28:57    He hoped that the nation sunk into vegetation would recognize
00:29:02    its true interests and elevate the unimpeachable truth of the finally liberated Hungarians
00:29:09    above its self-esteem, but the dream-like freedom caused a panic,
00:29:15    not the soul created for good, but the instincts sunk into indestructible.
00:29:21    They can't even interpret their own interests, tearing each other apart from day to day in that misconception,
00:29:29    as if they were missing something. Monday doesn't understand Wednesday,
00:29:34    Tuesday doesn't even know Thursday, Friday and Saturday on Sunday.
00:29:40    Sometimes it feels like he's turning back on us. That's how he sounds at times like this.
00:29:45    I could've made a thorough order here, but everyone would've been hurt
00:29:50    because everyone wanted their own order, and they wanted it to be at the expense of others,
00:29:56    but I wanted to be a prime minister who would've made sure that as
00:30:02    few people as possible were injured in this wounded country. Thankfully,
00:30:06    those who had reason to fear sought to wound me and my ideas to death,
00:30:13    for mercy and love were interpreted as synonymous with weakness.
00:30:18    And those who had good reason to avenge their ruined lives and
00:30:23    the humiliation of their homeland turned on me with more anger
00:30:28    than my enemies because I refused to assist in a bloodbath.
00:30:33    Poor people don't know that the martyr is a martyr at least twice.
00:30:38    When they kill him and when they remember him. It's his destiny.
00:30:45    But now I know that villains live at least twice when they kill,
00:30:52    and when they are forgiven. I believed the debauched
00:30:56    souls would find each other. They wouldn't make each other sick. That's not how it happened.
00:31:02    I feel like sometimes it's time to put up with the order, the will of the Lord,
00:31:09    and maybe there's no such thing as a nation forgotten in that dream.